Martin & Kazyak and Bordo

Carly Ozarowski

I really enjoyed reading Susan Bordo’s Gentleman or beast?  this week. I liked the way she addressed ideas people have about genders and gender identities. Gray claims that men’s attraction is “mindless physical attraction” and that “women need to talk in order to raise their sexual temperature” (pg. 232). These are just stereotypes that have become expected of both genders. For example there is the idea that there is something wrong with a women if she does want to have unattached sexual interactions. She is stigmatized and viewed as either tainted or something is wrong with her. She could either be called a slut and her past relations and childhood could then be brought into question. On the other hand if a man does not want to jump a women’s bones and does not objectify women in front of his friends he could be called gay. These type of stereotypes are detrimental because they give men and women very strict roles they need to play and give others the chance to ridicule them if they don’t follow them.

            Last class we spoke about how Conn’s rates of sexual assault is lower among athletes because many of them have attended Green Dot training, but after reading Gentleman or beast? I have to question if those statistics are true. I wonder if alleged sexual assaults committed by male athletes just aren’t reported as much because of the “athlete culture” at Conn. The aggression that athletes may or may not have could be excused because they are expected to be “real men” on the field and representing our school.

            After reading Martin and Kazyak’s Hetero-Romantic Love and Heterosexiness in Children’s G-Rated Films all I could think about is the newest Disney Princess movie Frozen. Past Disney princess movies show women waiting for their prince to complete some brave feat and for them to end the movie “happily ever after”. Frozen had more variation on the formulaic princess movie. It showed a woman who after some time realized she was content living on her own and that her power is beautiful. There were also other parts in the movie dubbed “progressive”. (At the bottom is a link about the 7 Progressive moments). There are some concerns in anointing this movie progressive. This means that now its ok. Disney is forgiven for all its other times it showed heternormativity. Disney is a company and is making money off children and family. They are making money off of the dreams that children have. It is a long cycle, are there little girls out there begging for their prince because of a Disney movie or are Disney movies showing this because some girls are already conditioned to want their prince? I believe it is both. When I was younger I was obsessed with Disney movies and Disney princesses but for some reason I had little care about the Prince in these movies. I believe that the idea of a “Prince Charming” is not totally understood or seen until a girl becomes older, and that in their initial watching of the Disney movie when they were maybe 5 that is not something completely saw or noticed.


4 thoughts on “Martin & Kazyak and Bordo

  1. Brittany Juliano

    After reading several people’s posts about Frozen, I am convinced that I nee to see it. The article you posted talks about how Disney pokes fun at its past plot defects. The whole movie revolves around the issue that the heroine cannot marry someone she just met, and yet all past Disney plots feature a magical romance that develops in as little as a glance. The Little Mermaid, might be the worst culprit of this, in that the Ariel and Eric do not even speak to one another before the plot makes it clear, that this is the romance of a lifetime. Compared to a movie like this where the woman literally does not speak for much of there relationship (playing an extremely passive role), Frozen does seem much more progressive. Despite the past, perhaps Disney is moving in the right direction, and the queer and hetero-normative-alternative studies of Disney film culture will become evident to the public audience rather than just a select audience of scholars.

  2. Gina Pol

    Along with the claims that you mention, Gray also states that woman “get warmed up not by physical but mental chemistry”, which reinforces the idea that women are not attracted to men by looks but by their personalities instead. On the other hand, men are attracted to women through their physical appearance more often than their personality. In a situation where a woman does decide to like a guy based on his looks, she will be criticized for being shallow or close-minded. Yet there are so many situations where men will do this, but their buddies will high five or complement them for being able to hit it off with someone who is physically attractive. While none of these actions should be applauded for either gender, it is upsetting to see that it is more recognized for men to do so than for women to do so.

  3. Sarah Wills
    I agree with Carly and also picked up on the point that Martin and Kazyak made about there being a double standard for men in women. This double standard works both ways when it comes to intimate relationships between men and women. If males and females do not fit into these stereotyped relationships then they are at risk of being called tainted or gay. It is very interesting that you also questioned the data that Conn collected regarding the low rates of sexual assaults among male athletes. There could be other factors than just green dot training that lead to the lower rates, or these sexual assault cases could just be under reported given the nature of the athlete culture.

  4. Sophie Sharps

    Your relation between these readings and Conn’s rates of sexual assault really made me think a lot. I have not yet gone through the Green Dot training, but I always find it incredibly fascinating when I head Darcie speak about some of the statistics and situations we see on this campus. I think that the “athlete culture” that Bordo discusses definitely could lead to the “culture of silence” that Michael Kimmel discusses in Guyland. We are so quick to valorize violence on the field that we begin to valorize these same players when they commit violent acts in their everyday lives. Darcie often explains that it is more alarming to see statistics that show that no sexual assaults have occurred, because that most likely means that these events are silenced. It seems like a fine line between actually having low rates and having hidden events that would actually increase these numbers. While on one hand it is more encouraging to see numbers dropping, it might be more beneficial to see these sexual assault rates increasing so that we know more people are feeling comfortable enough to report these assaults.

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